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Poster: Lum Edwards Date: Apr 13, 2011 4:15am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Smelling a Rat? You Betchum Red Ryder!

Not Quite

IA abides by the safe harbour provisions in the DMCA. They remove a copyrighted object when they are notified. Thats all they have to do to protect themselves. If anyones gets sued it would be the uploader not IA. IA will not go away because of copyrighted uploads.

I am not saying the uploads are a good thing but you cant stop idiots from trying, There are enough eyes here to spot them quickly and alert staff.





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Poster: Video-Cellar Date: Apr 13, 2011 5:12am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Smelling a Rat? You Betchum Red Ryder!

Actually, IA runs into a little snag here with the safe harbour provisions. Curation operations like moving the items from Community Video to Feature Films, whether they are performed by employees or volunteers, could be used by any half decent lawyer to mount an argument that a level of "contributory infringement" has occured. If the films stay in CV and are not touched by admins safe harbour would work just as it does on unmoderated sites like Youtube.

The curation at IA amounts to an, albeit basic, amount of moderation and, it could easily be argued, endorsement of the uploads. Even if the Archive itself was not held responsible, the individual curator may be held responsible for the infringement along with the uploader.

This post was modified by Video-Cellar on 2011-04-13 12:12:56

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Poster: Moongleam Date: Apr 13, 2011 8:35am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Smelling a Rat? You Betchum Red Ryder!

Good point. This supports what I've been saying: copyrighted movies should not be moved to Feature Films!

Before anyone moves a movie, he should remember the following.

Every U.S. film released after 1963 is still under copyright unless it lacks a valid copyright notice, and some that lack a notice are still under copyright.

DO NOT MOVE COPYRIGHTED MOVIES TO FEATURE FILMS!

However, if copyrighted films aren't moved here, how will the regulars in this forum be able to blow the whistle on them?

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Poster: tristero Date: Apr 13, 2011 9:18pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Smelling a Rat? You Betchum Red Ryder!

The catalog task history for ALL of these wrongful moves shows what seems to be the same admin address every time: atarukun44@gmail.com.

So the question, which has been asked before on IA forums, is who the hell is atarukun44@gmail.com and why is he or she moving things around in a way that shows such reckless disregard for IA's core mission?

I have a suspicion that maybe "atarukun44" shows up in the logs because the account is being invoked by some automated process, e.g., the "just move everything" batch, which some one needs to turn off. It's out of control.

Unless it's really atarukun44 him or herself that's out of control...



This post was modified by tristero on 2011-04-14 04:18:01

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Poster: k-otic Date: Apr 14, 2011 3:11pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Smelling a Rat? You Betchum Red Ryder!

looks like that this guy has hacked the archive
http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=atarukun44

almost 8000 items and most of them show

The item is not available due to issues with the item's content.

ii think he and his pals have still access them some how

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Poster: Lum Edwards Date: Apr 14, 2011 3:57pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Smelling a Rat? You Betchum Red Ryder!

atarukun44 is one of the main curators here. He has been moving stuff for years so 8000 objects wouldnt be abnormal. He moves stuff from open source to where they ought to go. Thats allows the forum experts to spot violations. He is a nice guy and not up to anything other than weeding out things from open source i am sure. Seems to me he was the first to help sometime back when we lost Ken our main mod thoughout most of the groups and nothing was getting done.



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Poster: tristero Date: Apr 14, 2011 4:58pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Smelling a Rat? You Betchum Red Ryder!

Well, I certainly don't mean to cast aspersions on hard-working mods, but there is a serious problem here. At the very least, IA's administrative processes for deleting copyrighted material seem to be fundamentally broken. Copyrighted stuff is getting moved with no request, and then NOT getting deleted even after multiple requests from knowledgeable users.

The Leo Frank doc is particularly galling. Stealing from PBS...that is *low*.



This post was modified by tristero on 2011-04-14 23:58:17

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Poster: k-otic Date: Apr 15, 2011 12:55am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Smelling a Rat? You Betchum Red Ryder!

Yeah sorry, my post was stupid